This is a custom clint mortenson 14.5-15 " roping saddle.with matching rawhide laced breast collar and nose band. Has custom engraved aluminum stirrups and inlaid seat gullet measures 7-7.5" will work on those hard to fit horses. My loss your gain buy this saddle for a fraction of a new custom saddle or even some of the other mass produced saddles. 2000.00 firm call if you have any questions 701-7101189